“A clock
cannot just form itself, it needs a maker” I agree, things cannot just form
themselves by themselves you need components. “Evolution cannot create such
vast complexity” now here is where we part (More like one falls into a ravine)
ways on this subject. Here is a great example of evolution creating something
vastly complex, and yet it still exists. The internet! “Ah-ha. I got you now!”
Mr. Theist thinks he’s so clever “The internet was made by a mind, and
therefore your argument is void.” Well played, Mr. Theist, well played, but you
are missing the point. The internet was made by men, but it (Like all man’s
inventions) is an extension of man. The internet is man made, but not just any
man could have made it, if we were to go back in time and ask a Neanderthal to come
up with something as revolutionary as the world wide web we would most
certainly be disappointed (Only if you were stupid enough to believe that the
Neanderthal would actually have been able to do it). Why is this so?
Inventions
take time to coalesce into the things they are today, each great invention, be
it in technology, philosophy, art and science, builds upon, or is built with,
the last great discovery. Imagine if we believed that the internet always was,
that it existed forever in a timeless state, we just had to discover it. This
would be a very strange way to see the world, everything exists because it
does, and if it has not come into existence yet that just means that it just
hasn’t come into it’s time. Just think about that, everything is, it’s just
hidden from us. In a theistic world view you almost have to believe this, for
if everything is predestined, then everything already exists, and we just are
not where they are yet. In a vague sense this is how rational people view
reality, everything is out there (All of the components and such), we just have
to make them work, put them together and presto, instant immortality! But let
us return to the idea of God has made everything that ever was and is to come,
if we ever cure cancer, then God withheld the knowledge from us until a later
date for what reason? Must we have grown to appreciate that dying a slow and
agonizing death of non-rent paying cellular moochers is a bad thing, or does He
believe that if we spend enough quality time with cancer that we can work out
our differences?
But what
about the internet, yes, well this complex data base of knowledge and porn just
didn’t arise out of nothing, it came from many hundreds of years of human
tinkering and ingenuity. Humanity loves knowledge, sex, violence, and entertainment, so
what’s on the internet reflects these things. We have placed everything, our
history, art, and thinking, onto a vast circuit board which we now have access
to nearly all around the world. But it wasn’t always that way, back in the dark
ages the best you could hope for was visiting a library, and farther back the
church, and farther back, oh you get the idea. The point is that our system of
knowledge and communication has advanced to a level unforeseen (Strange when
you think of it, God not knowing about the internet, I mean you’d think He’d
have told the prophets that ‘One day man will be able to speak to people he
cannot see, hundreds of thousands of miles away’ ‘Sure they will God’ ‘I’m serious’
‘Sure you are’), and yet we do not call this miraculous, we just accept that we
can and will continue to build bigger and better devices with which to extend ourselves.
“A mind
still built them” chides the theist, as if it somehow proves his point. Yes,
but think about this (I know it’s hard), none of these extensions of human
ingenuity would exist without the human mind, but has the human mind always
existed in such a state so as to come up with something as vast and
masturbatory as the internet? Of course not, human thought and the human brain
are in no way the way they once were back thousands of years ago; our species
has changed greatly since it first picked up a stick. We are different then we
were, and when we go back even farther we find that we were not even bipeds,
and in no way were the same ingenious ape we are today. The point being, that
in order for the complex to arise it must begin simply. The ameba may seem
simple now (By our definition of simple, have you ever seen a chart of all the
things in an ameba!?), but compared to the first form of life to have ever
exited (Which, unfortunately we have no example of) it is much more complicated
then what started life. The very idea of inanimate matter birthing life is
exactly as it should be, seeing as how inanimate matter is far less complex
then living matter, it would only make sense that the lesser gives way to the
greater. Similarly how nothing can give rise to something, if nothing (Un-unformed
particles randomly phasing in and out of existence) is simpler, then it is safe
to assume that complexity could arise from it.
Mind
boggling, not really, just counterintuitive, if we assume that complexity must
start from simplicity, then the only way we can disprove this idea is to find a
complex thing that always was. Searching, searching, searching… I… um… The dog
ate my deity! I can think of no such implicitly complicated thing that just
came into being as complicated in and of itself, it takes time and many simper
components to create complexity, and those things don’t just come together all
at once, it takes a lot of time and chance. “It’s astronomically imposable!”
Cries the theist, even so it’s not impossible, and all you need is one example
of the process working for such an argument to be crushed under the weight of
it’s own absurdity. No scientist believes that when life started there were
people and critters of all shapes and sizes just walking around going “Man, I
wonder how we got here?” rather life was small and simple, it could have been
nothing more than a bit of light sensitive amino acid, or whatever’s more
simple and probable than that, but life just didn’t come into being in the way
we know it today, life was a bit more goopy and a lot less interesting then it
is now.
“You still
have proven nothing! Where is your retort against the idea of a creator?”
Touchy bunch aren’t they? Well I have already answered this, in a way, you have
to be able to point to God, where is He? An example of a complicated being that
always was is needed, you cannot assume by default a priori that “God must have
done it because it exists and I wasn’t there to see it come into being so
somebody had to have been!” this is an absurd way of thinking, it’s like
looking at a rock and saying “Who made this?” no one made it! To assume intent
is like the person who in his paranoia believes that someone is sabotaging him
when bad luck arises, it is just as ridiculous as a person who personifies the
abstract and believes it to truly be a conscious thing. Accidents happen, no
one is responsible, and we usually accept this to be true, but not all
accidents are bad, there are many happy accidents, like winning the lotto, or
living to one hundred, or seeing a lunar eclipse in our life time, or many of
the other things that you have no real control over, life can be a happy
accident, and it need not be offensive to think so.
Why are we
scared of death? Why is non-consciousness our fear? Tis but the return of the
complex to the simple again, what cosmic poetry, and yet, like the best poems,
it’s sad. We love our life, we love other’s lives, we love! Oh to be unable to
experience this joyous existence, yet we are on a short leash, so much, and
yet, we’ll never see it all. It brings with it a strange sting, one of hope and
wonder, but also that of despair and melancholy, what sights are there to see
that I shall never glimpse even but darkly? We are not alone in this truth
though (Thank God, I was beginning to think that I’d have no company in my pity
party), just think of the litany of others throughout history who could never
have even dreamed of the dream that is today, what would they say of our
strange land of mystery and wonder? Well you’re going to have to say it for
them because they’re not here, we have built this world upon their tombs, and
they have died so that we could live, think of the countless lives that came
before, and then think of the precious few who changed our world for the
better, it seems impossible, but it only takes one to prove that its not, we
are a living testimony to the strength and magnificence of the evolutionary
theory, and we’re lucky enough to be able to recognize it.
“Evolution,
bah, it’s just a theory!” Saying this only gives away the fact that you don’t
know the definition of “scientific theory” rather you are probably equating the
word with the “conspiracy theory” definition, and they are in no way the same.
But, here comes a problem, we are nearing a troublesome event, one with great
moral implication for our species, and a powerful outgrowth of evolutionary
theory, artificial intelligence. Someday soon, you will be able to adopt an
automaton, and robot abuse will be prohibited, and man on machine relations
will be intimate in a truly loving way, but that day is being overshadowed by
the day that will come before. The day where signs will be held saying
“Property not person!” the day where slavery will rear it’s ugly head yet again
and reinforce a bigotry once thought dead, a day where technophobes will lash
out at their robotic brothers and sisters, and there will be sorrow and pain as
there was in the ages past. I see this day, it’s as clear to me as the tears
that will be shed for those countless lives ended and ruined by illogical
reasoning and unrestrained fear, by mass disinformation and apathetic
politicians, woe unto humanity for this future sin, woe unto us all. But here’s
the thing, we can see this! We have a very clear track record on our capability
to discriminate and unjustly harm our fellows, and yet we behave as if we’re
surprised by our actions, as if this behavior is somehow new in the human
experience. We will allow our narrow definitions of ‘animate’ and inanimate’ to
rule our treatment of others, we will quibble over the concepts of
‘consciousness’ and ‘unconsciousness’ and try to bring in some vague ideas
about the ‘true’ humanity of a thing and what the idea of ‘personhood’ actually
means, all the while allowing the most heinous evils to take place right under
our noses, and without the slightest sense of indignation towards it.
“Geez, are you going to get off
your soapbox and what does this have to do with evolution?” My point being
this, if it takes the simplicity of inanimate to make the biological, then the
complexity of making animate of the inanimate must require the process with
which we as biological creatures have undergone so as to even achieve this
state and thereby bring consciousness to that which could never be biological.
I know it’s sounds complicated (No, it sounds completely rational, someone
needs to get out more often) but stay with me, biological matter is made up of
simple inanimate matter, but when combine in a certain order results in life,
now think about it, imagine the definition of ‘life’ being broadened to what we
now refer to as inanimate. If the metal and wires of our machines resulted in
consciousness, we have then created life not based upon biological processes,
but rather a completely different set of systems, it is therefore reasonable to
surmise that the complexity of our artificial life-forms must necessarily be
more complicated than our biological life due to the fact that it is very
unlikely that said metals would come together under normal circumstances and
bond in such a way. Our artificial offspring would by definition be more
complicated than us, due to the fact that their existence requires a complex
mind to create them, and that complex mind has taken many years and generations
of evolutionary changes so as to result in their creation, in fact, without the
human the robot wouldn’t exist, but the robot is much more complicated then the
human, if we had a robot who experienced life in the same way as a man, that
robot, when compared, is more complicated. The robot is an evolutionary
outgrowth of humanity, its existence is predicated on man’s existence, but if
the robots are allowed to create their own robots, they will make better and
more efficient robots, and the robots will easily out weigh humanity in
complexity, even to the point of surpassing them.
“What does
this have to do with anything!?” I’m glad you asked. The robot should not be
viewed as a creation, rather as an inevitable evolution of humanity through its
creative process, much like the Neanderthal and the plethora of other
subspecies that mankind has sprung from, we must view A.I as another stage of
growth. If we are viewing the creation of artificial intelligence as an
invention rather than a growth, we are missing the point of evolution. This is
where the theist get’s it wrong, if something is ‘created’ it’s very creation is
more complicated than the one that created it, if something is made from
someone, it’s complexity is unique in and of itself, but it is still an
outgrowth from said thing, such growth has a powerful knock-on affect that
spurs further growth and creates untold complexity further on. If we were to
look at ‘God’ in this way, that would mean that ‘God’ is ever expanding in his
complexity, the very fact that he created things that grow more complex
themselves means that they have the potential to overtake God, but sense
nothing can do that, and God is the most complex being ever, then I cannot help
smelling something fishy. Everything must go from simple to complex, that is
the evolutionary rule, and until we find an example of this not being the case,
we cannot assume otherwise.
“But it
still took a mind to create it!” yes, but it was created complex to begin with?
Think about it, humanity was not always in its current state, we evolved over
time to be who we are today, where as artificial intelligence will be
complicated by definition, because it could not arise without intelligence
guiding it. The human animal took millions of years to come on the scene,
artificial intelligence will have only taken a few hundred or so, but its
complexity requires guidance, biology doesn’t. We misconstrue improbability
with impossibility, and we mistake intention and accident, both are the
telltale signs of pattern seeking creatures, we want to see design behind
things because it makes our life easier, we don’t have to trouble ourselves
with the difficult understandings of our world, we can just attribute agency to
everything, and sit back and enjoy the ride.
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